Climate Denial Crock of the Week – Climate Change and National Security
July 26th, 2010 | Author: nyt
Support Climate Denial Crock of the Week: Go here – www.greenmanstudio.com Climate Change will have profound implications for the security of every nation. Experienced military experts have come to some conclusions on what’s coming. General Gordon Sulllivan Former US Army Chief of Staff http Rear Admiral David Titley Oceanographer and Navigator of the US Navy www.youtube.com www.dailymotion.com vodpod.com www.dailymotion.com www.navy.mil www.climatesciencewatch.org Vice Admiral Dennis McGinn www.youtube.com www.treehugger.com crazymotion.net National Security and the Threat of Climate Change – Report securityandclimate.cna.org www.youtube.com Climate Change and US Security www.washingtonpost.com current.com dotearth.blogs.nytimes.com BBC Global Observatory, National Security and Climate Change www.youtube.com Climate change and heavy precipitation events www.usgcrp.gov climateprogress.org climateprogress.org and extreme heat climateprogress.org James Woolsey, Former CIA director fora.tv
@greenman3610 Thanks. I’ll include these findings in my infographic. I’ve had a few scrapes with the cranks on my humble blog. Google ‘Renegade Conservatory Guy Climate Change’. I’ve had people email me telling me I’m ‘evil’ and so on. But all its done is make me research the topic further. My hope is the infographic will demonstrate to ordinary folk the overwhelming consensus in simple graphics, whilst highlighting the danger of listening to skeptics. Thanks.
@ConservatoryTV
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Journalistic Balance as Global Warming Bias
When 97+ percent of working, publishing scientists agree there’s a problem – how is it “balanced” to pull some non-scientist from a think tank in to give “the other side”?
You can find some epidemiologists out there, who don’t believe HIV causes AIDS.
How often have you seen that “other side” presented as part of an AIDS story?
You don’t because the consensus is so overwhelming, and the critics are cranks.
@greenman3610 No piece missing. I do not claim to understand the science, but after spending months weighing up the arguments for both sides it is clear to me we should believe what the scientists are saying. I’m working on an infographic as we speak which compares the consensus, with the amount of time allocated in the media to skeptics, and then the affect this has on public opinion. If you are interested I could send you my first draft for your input.
@ConservatoryTV
what’s piece is missing for you?
@greenman3610 I’ve not changed my mind, but greenman’s videos are helping me understand the problem of climate change more fully.
@socialgarbage2 Add “Libertarian” to your list.
Only the blind and ignorant don’t believe climate change is in full effect.
@jimjamerman
If I can believe what people are writing to me week after week, it makes a difference.
I love Greenmans videos, but I wonder if he’s really making a difference. Anyone know if anybody has changed their minds about climate change because of him?
World simmers in hottest year so far
WASHINGTON (Reuters) – The world is enduring the hottest year on record, according to a U.S. national weather analysis, causing droughts worldwide and a concern for U.S. farmers counting on another bumper year. For the first six months of the year, 2010 has been warmer than the first half of 1998, the previous record holder, by 0.03 degree Fahrenheit”
google “world simmers in hottest year so far”
people i’m also worried cause sara is leading in the polls, only because we’re so broke, her ethics charges came back guilty and her energy plan is SHIT..she just bats her eyes and everyone buys her crap, very insulting! media cant even keep up with her lies! she has no experience, like obama, see how that is going? someone email her this video!
@TheWindClaw nope, chris horner is still at it, for exxon, plus it really pisses me off cause look at all the patriotic groups he supports on sourcewatch, just like newt gingrich and his bullshit koch coal front, jp morgan, man the amount of bullshit is really swelling..you think we’ve tipped from the corexit in the gulf and they’re just too afraid to tell us??
@robhoneycutt
I agree.
I’m rooting for China and I hope China can help lead the world out of the mess we’re in. I just hope that as China grows in power she has the wisdom to adapt to the rest of the world and not try to impose Chinese will on it
being realistic, even if we invested everything on green energy we could only make enough for 1940’s needs. alternatives are just not energy dense enough, as well as being oil derivatives anyway.
we have a catch 22 situation. we have to ween our self off fossils – they are running out fast. we cannot support 7 billion ppl on alternatives. however, can hyper sophisticated energy systems really be supported by a small population ?
looks like we are doomed either way. worth a try though
@BeondaPale Let’s see… In the 1970’s China was in the grips of Mao’s cultural revolution. People with a college education were being drug out into the streets and executed for, having an education. They were a completely isolated and closed society.
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Today we have a China growing rapidly. On the energy front they are actually far ahead of us and advancing. They have doubled their wind energy 4 years running where we have only expanded ~30% range.
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China has made great strides.
@TheWindClaw
my weak rationalization is that the guy at the beginning says he was a skeptic.
I should have put a Hannity clip or something right up front, I suppose, but I liked the
Gravitas of the old general starting right out.
I really like the video… but I fear the title is a bit misleading for this one: there’s no debunking!
@robhoneycutt I agree, it’s strange that such a rapidly modernizing nation would still rely so heavily on something so anachronistic and undemocratic as a “mandate of heaven”
The reason china might be better equipped is simple – authoritarian, top down rule rather than democracy.
But even given that, as of today they’re still going in the wrong direction for the most part
@BeondaPale [cont] are here in the west. They’re putting more into building a smart grid. They are investing heavily in wind and solar. They are very much looking at the long term issues where we are struggling to get past the disinformation campaign put on by the oil industry.
@BeondaPale There very much is still a Confucian structure (filiopiety and such) alive and well in China that lays out respect and responsibilities. It’s very ingrained. But part of that is the responsibility of government to the people. It’s very hard for many in the west to grasp these things. It’s taken me years to just get a glimpse.
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I would hold that China is actually better equipped to handle climate change over the long term than we are. They are investing many times what we [cont]
@robhoneycutt I know that China’s dynastic history is important. But it’s hard to deny that the eastern philosophy is more “following the leader” oriented (subservient) than the more individualistic minded west. The Chinese rise would not have been possible were it not for a long history of this.
As for rising out of agrarianism, China and the world are about to learn the hard way (climate change) that it doesn’t work without a very rational, very detailed & very long term plan.
@robhoneycutt Obviously it was a substantive discussion. “dumb-dumb leftist” is sort of an avant-garde attempt where you intentionally interject something puerile into the conversation. I’m reading Robert Heinlein’s the Moon is a Harsh Mistress at the moment and his writing style is probably what inspired that comment.
@OutlawTomFantastic Any use of a term “dumb-dumb leftist” however it is applied in a discussion is on par with the junior high debate team. Sorry, but I’m only interested in substantive discussions with adults.
@BeondaPale [cont] That is why the Chinese government sees their job as being to raise the remaining 3/4 of their population out of their agrarian lifestyle and into the first world. That is the motivation behind their red hot economic 10% growth rate.
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China still has a long way to go. They have many HUGE challenges on the horizon. So far they’ve shown a savvy ability to negotiate their position on the world stage. They’ve been able to “pull rank” the way the US has been so accustom to.
@BeondaPale Partially true. I’ll tell you, I’ve done business in China for nearly 20 years. My wife is Chinese and I speak Chinese. I have a little bit of insight here. Chinese people are not as subservient as most in the west might think. I’ve read a number of good articles talking about one of the driving forces for the Chinese government is the Chinese people’s historic propensity to rise up against their government if things don’t seem to be improving. [cont]